Primeurs 2006

et aussi https://tv.winelibrary.com/ (en anglais) Bordeaux 2002-2006

/Erik

J’ai reçu l’offre de GRAFE LECOCQ pour les primeurs 2005 présentée comme année exceptionnelle.
Les informations vinicoles traitent du millésime 2006. En résumé mis à part les vins du Rhône où il y a d’excellents crus, 2006 est un millésime moyen et ce négociant déclare dèjà qu’il ne proposera pas de primeurs 2006.

Cordialement

Abel

Bonjour,

Je recopie ici une partie de post d’un autre sujet >

Une partie du message du 29 mars du blog de J.Suckling qui relativise les quelques 95-100 qu’il a distribue a quelques tres grands et tres chers Rive Gauche :

« [i]I keep hearing wine producers in Bordeaux using the word “great” or “classic” for 2006, and I just can’t understand it. Maybe one could say that his or her 2006 was a great wine or that it was classic in style. But 2006 is not a great vintage. I am sorry.

Can’t we just agree that 2006 was a good year when some outstanding, even a few exceptional wines, were made?

The 2006 vintage just couldn’t be great. The growing season wasn’t great. The harvest wasn’t great. The only thing that was great was the work some châteaus did in their vineyards and the winemaking they did in their cellars. And that’s how they made some very good to outstanding wines. Some made exceptional quality wines, especially those châteaus with top-quality vineyards.

For example, I tasted the 2006 La Mission Haut-Brion today and it is one of the wines of the vintage. It is rich and powerful yet refined and beautiful [/i](…)better than the Haut-Brion. (…)[i]

But La Mission is certainly the exception in 2006. Most barrel samples I tasted are nowhere near the same level of quality as the La Mission, or Latour, Margaux, Mouton, and Las Cases.

“I am not surprised by the differences you found,” said Jean-Philippe Mascles, cellar master at Haut-Brion and La Mission, during a tasting with him today. I told him how uneven the vintage was. “It is normal. You had excesses during the year. It was sort of bizarre. You had a very hot and dry July. Then it was very cold for August. I remember wearing a sweater. Then it rained too but it rained lightly and consistently. Then September we had rain. Only producers with great vineyards who worked seriously made serious wines … it wasn’t a great year.”

YES. A great year is like 2005, when nearly everyone from the simple winery in some outback district of Bordeaux to the first-growth in Pauillac makes the wines of their career [/i](…)[i]

I have tasted about 150 2006s so far, and the majority of the wines are good to very good but nothing special. I would say most would fall in the 84- to 87-point range, if I had to give them exact scores. Remember, I am not talking about any of the big names. I have tasted lots of bourgeois crus and petit château already. They are clean wines with good, but not opulent fruit, with firm tannins and medium length. Most lack some concentration in their midpalates and have slightly austere tannins.

Nearly every winemaker in Bordeaux has told me that this was a “vine grower’s vintage” but I might add that it was also a “winemaker’s vintage.” Those who excelled in both areas made the best wines of the vintage.

The fact is that very few wineries in Bordeaux had the financial resources to have done the necessary work in their vineyards and cellars to make excellent wines in 2006—primarily the very top names [/i](…)[i]

“We have so much competition in the world now that we have to make outstanding wines even in a difficult vintage such as 2006,” said Hubert de Boüard, the winemaker and part owner of St.-Emilion’s Angélus as well as the proprietor of La Fleur de Boüard in Lalande de Pomerol. His Angélus is outstanding in 2006.

Hubert was saying that this year the en primeur, or futures campaign would mostly focus on 30 or 40 names. It is not a year to buy across the board, like in 2005. I am not sure I would personally buy much 2006 en primeur, but I can see that some might want to. The top names of Bordeaux are getting harder and harder to buy, particularly some of the cult wines and other limited-production wines. Basically, the wines to focus on are those with score ranges of 95–100 or 92–94 in my ratings.

I am talking about consumers, by the way. Wine merchants are going to have to buy anyway to protect their allocations of futures. The system works that way, [/i](…) If they pass on buying in one year, especially less good ones, then they won’t get much in another. I know a number of U.S. wine merchants who didn’t buy many 2004 futures, so they had a limited number of 2005 to buy, and later sell (…)[i]

I haven’t finished tasting yet. So these are just my impressions at the moment. I have to taste the big names of St.-Emilion and Pomerol—Cheval-Blanc, Ausone, Pétrus, and Le Pin—and I suspect they made some excellent wines. But they are, as always, the cream on top of the milk. But the milk in 2006 is looking rather skim at the moment …

I keep thinking about conversations over the week when wine producers looked me straight in the eye and said how 2006 was a great year. Some even said that 2006 was better than 2005. And some even said it didn’t rain during the harvest! That’s not helpfuI … I was in Bordeaux during the harvest.
Moreover, the wines tell the story[/i] « .

Cordialement,
dfried

Bonsoir,

Ci-dessous une partie de la suite du blog de J.Suckling :

“[i]The problem is that they believe that their 2006 is a great wine,” said one négociant, with a number of well-known wine estates under his control.

The thought is sort of scary. I think a lot of producers have convinced themselves that they have made great wines in 2006. Sure, a handful of wines are 95-100 point-worthy. For example, I tasted today Pétrus and Trotanoy and I thought they were all potentially classic wines. But they are not as exciting as the 2005s. A lot of wines are very good, even outstanding, especially considering the difficult weather conditions in 2006, but let’s be serious.

“You have to wonder how someone’s 2005 was, if they are saying their 2006 is better,” said Pierre Lurton, the manager of Cheval-Blanc, who made an outstanding 2006. Lurton agreed that it was not on the level of his 2005 though.

(…)

I can’t think of many 2006s that I have tasted, red or white, that are obviously better than their 2005s. Today, for example, I tasted the 2005 Canon and L’Evangile after the 2006s at the same estates. No way. Game over. The 2005s blow away the 2006s. They have more of everything. They are so much more exciting with wonderfully ripe fruit, almost exotic, and powerful yet sweet tannins and a vibrant acidity. (…)

(…) Christian Moueix, who was happy with the quality of his 2006s, especially Petrus, but he agreed that they could never be at the same level of his 2005s. He already sold most of his 2006s as futures to his exclusive agents around the world for between 10 percent and 25 percent less than 2005. He said that his prices were between current prices for his 2003s and 2004s, and added that his customers were happy to buy them.

I wonder how happy everyone else is going to be to buy 2006 futures from the other well-known names? I also wonder how much châteaus are willing do drop their prices?

Everyone I spoke to in Bordeaux mentioned dropping his or her prices. (…) The big question is just how much?

I also heard that stock of the best wines is at low levels in Bordeaux, both in the cellars of merchants and the châteaus. And demand is way up. I have no statistics, but this is what people are saying. But I don’t think there is really a shortage of excellent Bordeaux, considering the string of very good to phenomenal vintages including 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005 and now 2006.

As I said yesterday, the names to focus your money on, if you’re so inclined, are those 2006s from the top estates that worked flawlessly. It was not an easy vintage. So much was against winemakers in 2006, but some triumphed and I applaud them!

(…)

Perhaps it’s all the hard work that convinced some that they even made great wines in 2006? And a handful may have …[/i] »

Cordialement,
dfried

à mon avis il faudra bien plus que 30 % de réduction sur 2006,peut être que – 30% par rapport aux prix des 2004 cela permettre d’acheter quelques flacons mais je vois mal latour 2006 se vendre à 400 €

Les notes rive droite ne sont pas encore publiees.

Quant aux importateurs et autres negociants de tous pays pour avoir parle a certains importants d’entre-eux, mis a part l’eternelle question de la volonte de tout de meme garder des relations correctes avec les producteurs en cas de prochain millesime exceptionnel (mais doutons-nous que le prochain sera du jamais vu ;)) il sont echaudes par 2 points :

* Ils se sont fait maltraites de maniere souvent hautaine par les domaines au moment de leur propres reservation 2005 malgre leur fidelite ancienne.
* Ils n’ont toujours pas prevendus tous leurs 2005.

Ce a quoi s’ajoute un 3e point que maitrisent parfaitement les negociants anglo-saxons en particulier :

* A ce jeu de « poker-menteur » des primeurs, les domaines aussi puissants soient-ils ne sont pas toujours assures d’imposer leur loi a long terme.
Surtout si les riches et puissants negociants hors France leur font comprendre qu’ils ne feront pas trop d’effort pour distribuer leurs vins aupres de leurs clients finaux (grands hotels, grands restaurants, particuliers locaux), mais vont plutot leur proposer des alternatives d’autres pays ou d’autres regions.

Avec des intervenants qui melangent parfois autant les casquettes (producteurs, negociants, distributeurs) que les pavillons (participation croisees dans differents pays par differentes familles) le jeu devient encore plus complexe et hasardeux.

Cordialement,
dfried

https://www.lhebdomadaire.info/+Primeurs-bordelais-un-millesime,277+

https://www.falstaff.at/index.php?id=89

Les notes sont les leurs. C’est un monsieur Peter Moser qui fait les degustations. Je sais pas si il est un bon ou mauvais degustateur.

Je regarde souvant sur: https://bordeaux.blogg.de/index.php
Mario Scheurmann est un degustateur renommee.
Il est tres negatif.

En parlent de Moulis, Listrac, Médoc et surtout Margaux il ecrit:
Ich kann mich an keinen Jahrgang seit Anfang der 1990er Jahre erinnern, in dem ich hier soviel flache, nichts sagende Weine verkostet habe. So dünn, so wässrig dürfen sich klassifizierte Gewächse einfach nicht präsentieren. Die Hälfte der Weine hätte nach meiner Vorstellung von einem Grand Cru zum Zweitwein abgestuft werden müssen.

En francais (un peu pres):
Jamais depuis debut des annees 1990 j’ai goute autant de vins qui sont sans ame et me disent rien.
La moitie de ces vins aura du etre mis sur le marche comme deuxieme vin.

marco

a propos Pichon Comtesse … [i]

Château Pichon-Comtesse 2006 (90-92)

Herkunft: St.-Julien

Beurteilung: Feine Röstaromen, zart nach Karamell, süßes Brombeergelee, Kirschen und Veilchen. Am Gaumen rassig, kraftvolle Tannine, die noch recht fordernd sind, feiner zedriger Touch, frische Säurestruktur, etwas Bitterschokolade, braucht Zeit, angenehmes Cassis im Nachhall.

(90-92) Punkte

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Herkunft = provenance … ::o

j’espère que c’est la secrétaire qui s’est plantée …